Question: "Abortion isn’t the treatment for suicidality, and it never has been. " I don't think people are really saying that, if she had gotten the abortion, she wouldn't have been depressed anymore; it's more that the woman was forced to 1. carry a child under circumstances that could have led to the death of the woman and/or child and 2. had surgery that she didn't consent to. It's not really the fact that she was denied an abortion, but the way it was handled. - titlecore
She actually DID eventually consent to the c-section.
"However, in the intervening period, the woman agreed to have the baby delivered. " - http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/health/baby-delivered-as-woman-refused-abortion-under-law-30512513.html
Under that kind of pressure, like what were her other options? Real talk.
What kind of pressure? Being kept alive?
They forced her to remain pregnant rather than get an abortion. She was backed into a corner. What was she going to do? What were her other options besides consenting to a c section? She was backed into a corner, friend.
Do you think someone freely consents to an abortion when they are suicidal? Is that the situation when you say “yes, this is her clear and well thought out decision”?
Whether clear and well thought out or not, it was HER decision to make. Psychiatrists agreed with her. But no, she was forced to continue a pregnancy she didn’t want, took drastic action endangering TWO LIVES, (it’s not just about the foetus, it’s about the mother too) because she was suicidal, and wanted to end the pregnancy at minimum. So, they pressured her into having a cesarean instead? When she didn’t even want the goddamn fucking pregnancy?
You seem to forget, although being suicidal doesn’t put you ‘in the right frame of mind’ to make such a huge decision, to refuse the decision that she made almost cost the life of her too. How’s that fair? It isn’t, it’s fucking hypocritical.
So hmm… keeping her alive… would have killed two people?
When you’re in the hospital, it’s very difficult to find ways to commit suicide. There aren’t shower rods, doors don’t lock, nurses check on you every 15 minutes at night. Your magazines aren’t allowed to have staples, they take any shoes with laces, and your pants can’t have drawstrings. If the staff notices you doing something suspicious or dangerous, you’ll be taken into a different section - the one with the padded rooms and all. The exact procedures probably vary by hospital, but if she’s in the hospital’s care, she’s safe.
This may or may not make a difference… but http://goo.gl/ns9Kmf that link has information from women who were raped and got an abortion. Or kept the child. And it may not make a difference, but I would like to point out all these women felt pressured by others around them. Not forced to keep the child, but that subliminal messaging and shit gets to a person… but they weren’t forced in a hospital.
I feel, instead of using opinions of people who never went through a situation like this (being forced to keep a monster’s child) we should learn from those who were faced similar conflicts.
I’m not saying I know what it’s like to be pregnant from rape, but I am a rape survivor by multiple men and I have been in the hospital from a suicide attempt.
I’ve embedded two videos. One is from Feminists for Life by a woman who survived rape. The second (which can link you to dozens of other testimonies) features a Northern Irish woman speaking about abortion made her desperation and fears worse.